Prop-1 Indication LED please help to varify this thinking is correct.

[michilson]

Here's the Plan and after some research i think i have this right just wanna make sure.
I want to place Single LED's on a Enclosed Box to show status of the PIR, Prop-1 and Outputs and Power please look and see if this sounds about right.

For the Power LED Tap into the 12V DC plug (On Board Power Check) Place a Green LED with 470 Ohm 1/4watt Resistor Then to ground,

PIR (Encloser seperate from Prop-1) Same Setup Green LED with 470 Ohm Resistor. If i am thinking correctly it gets it's power from the Serial Cable!

I would like to know the connfiguration of the serial cable (IE Power and Connection) I want to install a Switch into it's signal to the prop-1 to de-activate it from the loop so it can not be tripped.

Now Back to Prop-1 Encloser

PIR Trigger ( Input to the prop 1 Tap into Serial Cable) Red LED w/ 510 Ohm 1/4 Watt Resistor.

Idel Status (correct me if im wrong but the PIR ties up a Out Channel) so this would be Using out 2 (Blinking every sec or so) Yellow LED w/ 510 Ohm 1/4 Watt Resistor (program running ie event tripped hold light on till event finishes)

OUT STATUS (Remaining connection)

Red LED's Tide to OUTS 3-8. Outs 3-7 go to Relay Packs to switch 120 Volt Sources Total of 4

out 8 goes to 12V Air Valve

All Outputs are 12v Relays have 12V DPNT supply.

If i want to install a local trigger does that tie up another Output to monitor the Push Button or can it be Tied into the PIR circuit?

[menehune]

Here's the Plan and after some research i think i have this right just wanna make sure.
I want to place Single LED's on a Enclosed Box to show status of the PIR, Prop-1 and Outputs and Power please look and see if this sounds about right.

How far away will the status box be?  2 inches, 12 inches, 12 feet?

For the Power LED Tap into the 12V DC plug (On Board Power Check) Place a Green LED with 470 Ohm 1/4watt Resistor Then to ground,

The power LED can be extended with no problem.

PIR (Encloser seperate from Prop-1) Same Setup Green LED with 470 Ohm Resistor. If i am thinking correctly it gets it's power from the Serial Cable!

I would like to know the connfiguration of the serial cable (IE Power and Connection) I want to install a Switch into it's signal to the prop-1 to de-activate it from the loop so it can not be tripped.

The Parallax PIR has three wires-Red (power +), Black (power -) and White (serial coms)  The power is separate conductor but if you have a servo extender cable, the power and serial can be supplied from the Prop on the came cable.  No separate power supply is needed to power the PIR.

I'm not to familiar with the PIR (never used one) but there is a settling period (warm up time) after power is applied.  I think I read on these boards that the "warm up" time was 5 seconds.  I would place the enable/disable switch on the data line so the power always stays up and the motion sensor can be quickly re-enabled.

You may run into problems with the led possibly loading down the pulses which trigger the Prop.  You may need to drive the LED with a transistor.

Now Back to Prop-1 Encloser

PIR Trigger ( Input to the prop 1 Tap into Serial Cable) Red LED w/ 510 Ohm 1/4 Watt Resistor.

Idel Status (correct me if im wrong but the PIR ties up a Out Channel) so this would be Using out 2 (Blinking every sec or so) Yellow LED w/ 510 Ohm 1/4 Watt Resistor (program running ie event tripped hold light on till event finishes)

The stamp does not have an idle timer.  You could add a command to the bottom of your program which will light and extinguish an LED, but the time required to light the LED will take away from the time for PIR sensing.  You may be able to get around that limitation with some clever programming.  Jon may better be able to help with the specifics.

OUT STATUS (Remaining connection)

Red LED's Tide to OUTS 3-8. Outs 3-7 go to Relay Packs to switch 120 Volt Sources Total of 4

out 8 goes to 12V Air Valve

All Outputs are 12v Relays have 12V DPNT supply.

If i want to install a local trigger does that tie up another Output to monitor the Push Button or can it be Tied into the PIR circuit?

The OUTx switch the ground on and off, so instead of proving a 12V on the screw, the OUTx screws provide the ground.
A possibly easier solution to show the status of the outputs would be to get a Prop 1 trainer.  The trainer provides 6 LEDs and a pushbutton.  The push button could extended to a remote push button to be a local trigger.  The PIR could be connected to the header pins on the P6 input on the trainer to "parallel" the input.

[michilson]

The controller will be in the Encloser (the Status Light will be on the outside of the box.

The power switch idea on the Serial (com line) is a great suggestion thanks!

I dont for see a issue if i bridge the + and - to the pir with a Small Led it would have a Resister in it's circuit. All this is for is to Varify that there's power on the line. Im going to change the connections on the PIR. Being Im installing both the PIR and the Controller in Seperate Enclosers I'm going to use a 4 conductor Phone Cable (Not using one line) or if need be Doubling one line for power. This gives me more flexibility and faster connections. There shouldnt be much signal drop as longest run wouldn't be more than about 20'.

Most of the Indication Lighting would Run in Parrel to the rest of the electrical circuit. To just show if the relays are open and running or Off

I think i'll come up with a Status Code. Besically to Turn on for 0300 30 msec then turn off then repeat every 2 sec. (Flashing when PIR = Off)
Then when PIR = on would Light LED Run Program and Turn off and return to Status Flash.

So for the most part it sounds light this plan of action will work. Thanks for your Help. Now all i need to do is buy one of these guys build my box's and Write some Programing code.