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AP-8 not playing the first sound clip

Started by Shotzie, October 31, 2008, 09:41:26 PM

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Shotzie

As the topic states I had trouble tonight with my AP-8. When tested it after wiring it worked fine. However, when I pluged everything in it would only play the first clip 1 out every 7 or 8 times. It played all of the other clips without a problem. This made for a frustrating evening. Have you encountered this problem before?

JonnyMac

If it plays at all (under control from the Prop-1) then I don't think there's anything wrong with the AP-8.  A "failure" is typically complete, i.e., nothing plays, not just one file. 

We Halloweeners are really good at dashing stuff together at the last minute -- I was working on putting LEDs eyes into a rubber rat just before leaving for a series of parties.  With automation, testing is critical and when we don't give ourselves time to thoroughly test, these kinds of things happen.  I know this from my own experience and spending time with tech friends tonight as things weren't working quite right (but will be perfect tomorrow!).
Jon McPhalen
EFX-TEK Hollywood Office

Shotzie

I've gone backwards and forwards over the connections and everything. I don't understand why it did this. The only thing is I had to set it on a plastic surface because due to some wicked corporate plan radio shack no longer carries standoffs in the stores. This would be the only other thing I can think of. If you have any ideas as to what else to check please let me know.

JonnyMac

Troubleshooting an intermittent problem is really tough without being able to see the setup and connections.  My first thought got to the valve wiring/connections as the valve is activated right before the first segment is played.  If there is some interaction between the two, perhaps a code change can overcome this.  You might change the first section of code to this:

  sfx = 6                                       ' speak (ntc)
  GOSUB Play_AP8
  PAUSE 100
  Valve = IsOn                                  ' lean forward
  PAUSE 11000                                   ' almost to end


This will start the AP-8 before the valve is activated.  If after this change things work, great.  If the AP-8 hiccups -- like starting and then stopping -- after this change then I would suspect something with the valve you're using; perhaps it's causing a noise spike or is on the ragged edge of what the controller can supply, current-wise.

Again, I'm just speculating because I cannot see what you have or how things are connected.
Jon McPhalen
EFX-TEK Hollywood Office

JonnyMac

Quote from: Shotzie on November 01, 2008, 09:27:23 AM
...due to some wicked corporate plan radio shack no longer carries standoffs in the stores.

Have you seen this?: http://www.efx-tek.com/topics/prop-1_ap-8_mount.html
Jon McPhalen
EFX-TEK Hollywood Office

Shotzie

November 01, 2008, 12:31:52 PM #5 Last Edit: November 01, 2008, 05:47:55 PM by Shotzie
Thanks I will try that. As for my valve when I ordered it I messed up and bought an AC powered one so it is actually running through a relay. I will let you know in a couple days how it works. Thanks.

Shotzie

November 01, 2008, 12:33:54 PM #6 Last Edit: November 01, 2008, 05:48:19 PM by Shotzie
Your mount is what I'll be ordering from now on. (I'll be placing an order soon to put with the electrice chair.)

Shotzie

I changed that code in the Prop-1 and it works superbly.  Thank you very much.  It's wild how electronics work and the smallest thing having an effect like that.

JonnyMac

Glad it's working.  Electronics, like any science, takes a bit of practice to get used to how things interact -- writing code to drive electronic devices is sometimes like a chef cooking in that combining ingredients in the wrong order can lead to undesirable results.  How does one learn these things?  Like getting to Carnagie Hall: practice, practice, practice.

With the Thanksgiving, Hanukkah, Christmas, Kwanzaa, and New Years holidays coming, there's a bunch of opportunities to write display and decoration programs.  Take advantage!  ;)
Jon McPhalen
EFX-TEK Hollywood Office